What is grain?

Discussion in 'Dairy Goat Info' started by sunnygrl_ks, Jun 10, 2008.

  1. sunnygrl_ks

    sunnygrl_ks Guest

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    what classifies a certain feed as a grain?

    I have always referred to basically all feed as grain, but i'm starting to get the impression that there is a difference, and you can't just say you use grain.

    We have plain pelleted feed.

    But I know there is pelleted with grains of other things like corn or oats.

    And there is feed with mainly just the grains and only some pellets.

    I have seen people talk about feeding grain and pellets and alfalfa pellets in one statement, and I'm needing to twist my mind around a concept I never really realized was so difficult.... ( is it just a regional difference of language?)

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  2. stacy adams

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    When we talk grain, you're correct, we mean grain as it is, Oats, Barley, Corn either whole or crimped (or rolled = squished if you will) When we talk pellets, most of the time, we mean Alfalfa pellets, which is a chopped compressed hay that has been extruded.
    Pelleted feed is a whole 'nother thing. It is usually comprised of a variety of grains, minerals, etc: mixed with molasses for palatability and oils for compression. The ingredients in a particular mix can vary with the climate like a drier molasses in the winter and a more fluid one in the summer. Oils can change as well depending on what's cheapest.
    I know.. more than you wanted to know.. :)
     

  3. Sondra

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    Stacy is correct however many many people say grain when they are meaning a pelleted feed/grain
    Alfalfa pellets is not grain it is alfalfa but pelleted feed/grain also has alfalfa in it as a general rule.
    I mix my own so when I say grain that is exactly what it is Whole oats/steam rolled barley/cracked corn /beet pulp/and BOSS
     
  4. When I say grain, I mean my actual milking grain. (Corn, Oats, BOSS, & a Provider 38, which is a dairy pellet, not a grain like corn...)

    Usually when I'm talking about alfalfa pellets I either type the whole name out or abbreviate. (Sp?)

    :)


    Sondra,

    Does your grain mix consist of all of what you listed or just some of it depending on the doe?

    Thanks :)
     
  5. sunnygrl_ks

    sunnygrl_ks Guest

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    lol.... so everyone does have a little bit of different definition of grain, but I get the general idea.... thanks everyone! :biggrin
     
  6. tjgoatgirl

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    Sondra............I was going to try out your "grain mix" I could not figure out what BOSS is.............dumb I'm sure.............I even asked at the feedstore?? :biggrin

    The only thing that we could come up with was Boss brand anti-Parasite Permethrin Pour-On! I was pretty sure THAT wouldn't be a good additive! :?
    Tracy
     
  7. Terry

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    Boss = Black Oil Sunflower Seeds
     
  8. tjgoatgirl

    tjgoatgirl New Member

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    OMG! I feed those already~! Thanks.
     
  9. Sondra

    Sondra New Member

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    My grain mix is
    100lb whole race horse oats
    100lb rolled barley
    25 lb cracked corn
    25 lb BOSS (black oil sunflower seeds):)
    20 lb dry beet pulp

    I top dress with knock of of calf mana to certain does.
    everyone gets 1 to 2 lb on the stand per milking depending on the doe.
     
  10. Bella Star

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    Some of the feeding choice comes with territory as I cant get beet pulp and some other types of feed here where I live .
    I am one that feed's alfalfa pellets,whole oats and pellet all stock feed with 1 teaspoon of sunflower seed oil on the stand for my milk doe's and plenty of pasture and browse.
     
  11. Sondra

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    I only put alfalfa pellet in my milk stand grain for a couple of heavy milkers that eat faster than the machine will pump out and I don't want to founder them so they get alfalfa pellets to sift thru :) after they are all milked they are let out to feeders with alfalfa pellets basically free choice.
     
  12. Qvrfullmidwife

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    Linda you cant even get beet pulp at tractor supply? That is the cheapest place to get it around here...
     
  13. Thankyou Sondra :)
     
  14. Sondra

    Sondra New Member

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    Will say now with BOSS so exspensive I have gone to using sunflower oil or safflower oil as a top dress. 1 tbl per lb.
     
  15. Sunny Daze

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    Tractor supply had their BOSS on sale a couple weeks ago...i only got one bag, should have stocked up! Feed stores here charge almost $30...
     
  16. WOW $30 for BOSS. NO WAY would I pay that much. LOL. I haven't had to buy BOSS yet (We only use 2cups a day so it lasts) If I had a large herd I couldn't feed BOSS but I'm only feeding my two milkers BOSS. :)