i posted this last night but seems gremlins ran off with it, so i'm posting again. if the other one shows up, please forgive me and delete one of them! my 11yr old took the FF ober into show yesterday and won grand champion! judge said lots of lovely comments on her, and then as cassidy was taking katie out of the ring the judge quietly told her she'd like to have a goat like that. sure made my kid feel great. me too, we are so new i wasnt' sure if i was doing anything right, from choosing the goats, to trimming and clipping. i have plenty more to learn, but we are on the right path! (with plenty of thanks to you here) the other daughter also got a purple from the big saanan, but was told she was a bit 'over fleshed' haha, yup, she's huge! when the judge asked her any comments about her doe, cheyenne said she'd like to trim her up some, but she drops in milk so we left her fat, and the judge really liked the answer. both our doelings earned purples as well. a good day! and again, thanks for the tips, we'd not have done as well without the help and advise from here. i was so nervous our goats would be not as good as the others, but i am thrilled at how wrong i was!! and after doing this show, i wondered how do you ppl do that???? one small local show was about all i could do in a year! the worst was all the mauling my poor dears had to put up with--from ppl passing by! not even just kids, but the ear pulling, face slapping, teasing and feeding of things was about all i could stand, :mad and i know we lost any monies we would've won because they were suppose to stay til today, or at least be brought back this morning, but i took them home last night and not today at all. (there was no show today, so i seen no need to sujbect them again to that!) how on earth do you keep your gals safe in public???? my daughters were already talking on what they'd do diff. next year, but now i need to figure out how to even do this at all, without causing this issue again. i had to sit there for hours, just guarding over them, and one kid was even going to use a pitchfork on our little ober!!!??? how do you do it??? is this normal????