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This morning I was trying to get one of my goats to the milking stand (which is outside the pen ans not fenced in 馃槵) and as I tryed to slip her leash on she ran out of my hands. I tried to catch her for at least 45 minutes using food and much more to lure her back into the pen where I would be able to put her leash on and get her out to the milking stand. I finally got her back in after I got some help but I immediately knew that I would need a new set up. I was hoping you guys would be able to send me some pictures of your set ups that I could try.
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Does she like apples or bananas? The way to a milking does heart is through her stomach! They need lots of feed while lactating, and they need to associate you with feed.

Next time you get her in the stand, put a halter on her. What I have found is they will usually approach you for a treat, especially if they like it and they do not get it very much.

The trick with halter is devious. Put the treat in the top hand and patiently wait for the doe and instead of walking straight at her, which is what predators do in that goat mind of hers move more sideways to her travel. On the bottom of the halter is a ring. When she starts eating the treat slowly slide your lower hand that is underneath the treat hand.

Don't use a leash at first as she has, long ago, decided that the rope is what she dislikes. Loop your hand quickly through the halter ring (I use my thumb) but stay still and keep letting her eat the treat. With every disagreeable action always have a treat both before and after the action. Goats learn fast, but if you use treats their food drive cover over a lot of things that generate flight.

Once you have you hand securing the doe's halter, do not drag the doe where you want it to go, suggest with slight movements where you want her to go and then wait. Once they realize you aren't going to let go, and you are not dragging them but suggesting to them where you want them, with treats in hand, they generally will go that way. Use the halter to point them towards the milking stand.

I would also make sure I had a feed they would kill for in the stand. She is going to be upset for quite a while. Keep up with treats and change the type of treats and that should keep her interested. You should be feeding her a 16% grain preferably sweet. Yep, they have a sweet tooth.

If you are using a milk machine, check the vacuum pressure. It should be more than 12" and less than 15". Less tahn 12" it might not work, and over 15" you may have a real fight with your doe when you are milking.

I had one doe that was psychotic. I was ready to a 357 mag bullet through her brainpan. But working on her with treats, including wearing a treat purse (manbag!) it finally got to the point whenever I wore that manbag I was BMOC to the goat world. Once she realized she was not going to get the grain she loved, and we used gentle force, made her think it was her idea to be milked, she was okay with it.

My goats were appleholics. When they smell apple in the treat bags I always got her in the stand. Once she was there I reinforced it with more apple slices in her feed. I just had to be sure the apple slices were small enough for her to eat. I had to watch my back, because some doe somewhere was going to try to open the flap on my treat bag.

But I have always determined, let the goat think it was its idea to do something instead of mine and I could get any goat to go anywhere,
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Also make sure their feed is what they like. One doe hated the alfalfa in with her grain. She would use her nose to shovel out the alfalfa pellets out of her trough. She would even grab the trough with her teeth dump it out and throw it down. When I switched over to sweet feed pellets, she was happy and quit making a mess in the milking parlor.

I even had to put a better lock on the parlor because someone figure out the hasp and I would find all my milkers in parlor helping them selves to the treats! What a mess.
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Thank you soooo much! I will try that tonight!
My goats only really get treats either directly my hand or, more often, when on the stanchion, where I always put a little something to keep their interest, when they beat me back to the stanchion (aka - Always!). They've all become accustomed to this practice of mine, that as soon as they're out and 'free', they make a beeline for the stanchion. That's key, because the goat barn is a good 20 yards from the house, and the stanchion is right against the house, in order to keep it as close to the fridge as possible, as well as keeping it under a roof. Unfortunately, I can't run as fast as they do馃ぃ, so the teaser in the feed trough attached to the stanchion makes sure they don't take off, before I can hobble back down the hill. .
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This morning I was trying to get one of my goats to the milking stand (which is outside the pen ans not fenced in 馃槵) and as I tryed to slip her leash on she ran out of my hands. I tried to catch her for at least 45 minutes using food and much more to lure her back into the pen where I would be able to put her leash on and get her out to the milking stand. I finally got her back in after I got some help but I immediately knew that I would need a new set up. I was hoping you guys would be able to send me some pictures of your set ups that I could try.
Sweet feed! ! ! LOL I put a little in feed dish on my milk stand. they run to it.. then the battle is getting only one at a time.. My set up is every one gets tied up prior to the grain coming out.. I have one stand in there yard.. practice stand.. they climb on, and holler out to me.. hilarious goof balls
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Yeah I switch to a 16% feed that has better nutrition, but Scholastica does not like it as much as the Dumor. All the other goats like the new feed and stay with the trough until they licked it clean. I am going to mix some 16% Dumor with the new feed and see if that changes things and then ramp out the Dumor.

Bu she is the doe in milk, so I have to listen to her :)

She tried to overturn the trough today and that bring back the vermin. What a mess!
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Yeah I switch to a 16% feed that has better nutrition, but Scholastica does not like it as much as the Dumor. All the other goats like the new feed and stay with the trough until they licked it clean. I am going to mix some 16% Dumor with the new feed and see if that changes things and then ramp out the Dumor.

Bu she is the doe in milk, so I have to listen to her :)

She tried to overturn the trough today and that bring back the vermin. What a mess!
I feed a mix of Blue seals Goat sweet 16%, sunshine plus, wheat berries and sunflowers seeds.. Interestingly when I missed the wheat berries for two feeding I noticed a drop in a cup of milk.. fascinating what affects volumne.. Here in Vermont were getting spring rain.. Goats are not impressed and that has decreased volume too
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Well adding Dumor helped. The 16% from the local feed store is not what she wants, but all the other goats love it. Put 50% Dumor goat feed with molasses in it with the other goat feed and everything was okay tonight for the evening milking. If I cut it with 12% which I have in abundance I am sure hat would be good too. Some of the additives they have in the local goat feed reduces bloat and add vitamins so it is actually pretty good for goats over all.

Who knows. In a few days she may be fine with the straight 16%.
Thank you guys sooo much! Sorry I didn't respond as fast I had hoped. I am feeding my 2 pregnant Nigerian Dwarves 2 cups of dairy goat feed, 1 tablespoon of black oil sunflower seeds, & a tablespoon of pumpkin seeds per day. Is that good?
Thank you guys sooo much! Sorry I didn't respond as fast I had hoped. I am feeding my 2 pregnant Nigerian Dwarves 2 cups of dairy goat feed, 1 tablespoon of black oil sunflower seeds, & a tablespoon of pumpkin seeds per day. Is that good?
Make sure you have free minerals around. 2 cups a day might be light, twice a day probably a little much. However, with hay all they can eat, especially alfalfa while they are pregnant you will probably be just fine. You might want to review their copper and give them some copper but I might consult a vet if giving them 2 gram kid dose might be too much.
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