"it does say not to use on sheep or goats, but I know goats are different then sheep. Thanks, Sarah"


If it says not to use it on sheep or goats, what animal are you wanting to use it on?
What issue are you wanting it to resolve?

 

It only includes goats on the warning because of the copper in the gell.

But like Anita, what are you trying to improve in your goats nutritional management, to add this to what you are already doing?

 

For what it's worth, I experimented with this gel a while back and will share my results....

Here is one of my LM does a lil while after I got her late this spring....

Coat was coarse, feet brittle, VERY flakey skin.

During my experiment with this newly purchased doe, I fed no loose mineral. Only left out a salt source. No copper bolus, no Bo-Se.

Gave 5cc one day, another 5cc the next day. After that I gave it once every 7 days for a month.

Here is her after pictures (after a total of 6 doses):

Coat shed out, came in very sleek. I've never felt softer hair.... Feels like petting a kitten...Flakey skin went away, hoof material improved.

My older girl Ginger had flakey skin really bad..... I Bo-Se her twice, a month apart. Bolused her. Top dressed feed with extra oil, rice bran and crushed up Zinc tablets in her feed.... None of that helped.

Stopped all the extras and gave her 5cc of the Replamin Plus every 14 days and her skin cleared right up.

I'm planning on keeping a freezer camp wether and plan to use the Replamin Plus on him instead of copper bolusing/Bo-Se, then I'll send a liver sample in to see what the lab says..... Right now I can SEE results, but I can't say what's going on without a liver biopsy.....

I'm NOT telling folks to do what I did, just sharing what I did and saw. It's a quick booster and I kinda viewed it like a Bo-Se shot/Copper bolus/Multimin all in one and used it to get deficient goats over the "hump".

Cool stuff, the goats like the taste (taste kinda mineraly/kale like) but I can see it causing problems if folks jumped on the "A lil is good, but MORE is even better" bandwagon...

 

Wow. That really made a difference for that doe, Chrystal.

 

Yes it did!

Was very impressed at how quickly it cleared up Ginger's flakey skin and improved her coat too, especially after I had no real luck with what I tried before.

I know others are using this, playing around with it.... I've seen all manner of dosing schedules and such, some use it as a "pick me up"... Some use it to replace bolusing/Bo-Se..... For me, I used it as a way to get them over the hump and I'm happy with the results. But I REALLY want to see a liver biopsy! We usually butcher our wethers around 7 months old, so I won't be able to have any lab work to share until fall.....

 

Thanks to Crystal, there has been a bunch of us using it on another group. I'm using it quarterly in my own non-problem stock as I've got them on a good mineral already, so doing this instead of copper bolus or if someone is ill. I bought 3 deficient does in early October and using it weekly and they are improving every week.

 

Cool! Thanks for sharing, Crystal.

 

Where can Replamin Plus be purchased?

 

Got mine at PBS Animal health. It's a big, 300cc tube. I have 6cc syringes I cut the tips off to make bigger holes and put the doses in that.... Star thinks it's candy... She sucked it right from the syringe.

 

Looking at my does, I had the same results just switching from thinking I had it all covered in my feed/ration to actually always providing a free choice goat mineral. Made all the ladies shine and it did also improve feet. I do not copper bolus either, so for now I'll stick with the free choice minerals. But you know what: it obviously worked for you, so stick with it! Different herd/location sometimes calls for different solutions

 

Yeah I would bet you would get similar results by giving them this much in soy oil (or any increase in fat). Fat really is the only secret bullet in this, unless you aren't offering any grain with a mineral mix in it, or no loose minerals at all. It simply doesn't have enough of anything in it to give you results like this, unless given daily.

 

Marion I've always provided free choice Right Now Onyx, and bolused/Bo-Se.

The doe pictured was a new purchase, on different management and the Replamin got her over the hump...

Ginger though, I gave the loose minerals, bolused & Bo-Se.... Plus added oil on her feed, rice bran pellets and crushed Zinc..... None of that helped her flakey skin. The Replamin helped her. She looks great and I have it to her twice, 2 weeks apart.

 

Crystal, she looks great. I may try it. Can't get my girls to eat any kind of loose minerals and was looking to try something else.

 

Fantastic turnaround Crystal! There is no denying a boost in mins in a totally available form is the key to this kind of improvement. Thank you for posting!
Lee

 

wow, wish i would have known about this stuff 6 months ago when i bought some does. they are all ok now, but it took forever to get them looking good.

 

Crystal, she looks great. I may try it. Can't get my girls to eat any kind of loose minerals and was looking to try something else.

Sarah, try adding some kelp to your loose minerals. I can almost guarantee you, they will eat them.

 

Kelp rocks! It may take a few tries to get them to eat kelp (it took mine 2 days) but now they love it.

 

Where do you buy kelp at?

 

I buy it from North American Kelp. For me, its a local company and I pick it up locally but they do ship. All the critters here get it, form the horses and goats down to the chickens, dogs and even me!

 

I think I bought mine from Countryside Organics.

 

Okay thanks, I'll give a try.

 

Add some livestock yeast to your mineral mix. We mix 3 pounds loose minerals to one pound yeast and it really sparks their interest. Make sure it has a low salt percentage. They are actually attracted to the mins for salt not for mins which have no smell or flavor. If the salt is too high- more than 10 or 12 percent then they will not eat enough to cover their needs unless your grain mix also has chelated mineral pack. Our grain is whole grains and seed meals with no additives so we do attempt to entice mineral consumption with yeast. The yeast itself helps in feed conversion and keeping the rumen healthy. I highly recommend it as part of your mineral mix daily. Putting minerals out fresh daily with a fresh addition of yeast never fails to get them munching.
Lee

 

You only feed 5 cc of Replamin Plus once a week, therefore not enough oil to make ANY difference in their overall consumption. However, it made a HUGE difference in their coat condition, very visible and tangible physically, starting at three weeks. MUCH better results than copper bolusing.

I had a nice discussion with one of the researchers at Replamin, and they know the label is wrong about goats, and the new labels will be corrected.

 

You only feed 5 cc of Replamin Plus once a week, therefore not enough oil to make ANY difference in their overall consumption. However, it made a HUGE difference in their coat condition, very visible and tangible physically, starting at three weeks. MUCH better results than copper bolusing.

I had a nice discussion with one of the researchers at Replamin, and they know the label is wrong about goats, and the new labels will be corrected.

Alice, are you saying you use Replamin only and do not bolus?

 

Haven't been giving it long enough to be sure that I won't have to bolus at all. Watching tail hairs. :biggrin

I'm thinking it's possible that I won't, but I'm still in the monitoring stage.