think I read somewhere 10 days don't know where tho
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Sounds to me like they are full term kids, not kids that were born premature.
All of the kids that I have had born early look premature. Teeth not erupted, small, struggling to stand, etc.
I think you have a very resourceful (and determined!) buck.
Let us know what the DNA test shows.
Sara
All of the kids that I have had born early look premature. Teeth not erupted, small, struggling to stand, etc.
I think you have a very resourceful (and determined!) buck.
Let us know what the DNA test shows.
Sara
Yeah, but these were indistinguishable from the kids that were born exactly on their due date. 7 1/2 lbs, teeth, standing within minutes, bouncing off the walls within a day.
The doe went into labor 3 weeks prior to her duedate according to whenshe went into the pen with the buck. We expected dead or dying kids. They were, to all appearances, fullterm, so we wracked our brains. We remembered that three weeks before she went in with the buck she spent about 12 hours on the other side of the fence from our 5 month old Lynnhaven buck. We had put our herd queen in the adjacent pen with the young buck because we thought she was in heat and wanted to seize the opportunity. There was no opportunity seized onbehalf of the herd queen because she spent the entire 12 hours beating the snot out of the young lad, in fact, everytime we checked on them, the buckling was hiding in the corner furthest from the herd queen and the adjacent pen. So...we never even considered that he could have bred through the fence when he wasnt even trying to do his stuff withthe herd queen, in fact seemed terrified of the does in general!
And those were the only two bucks on the property; the only 2 possibilities for breeding.
So...we had two seemingly impossible scenarios...a doebred by a very young buck through a cattle panel while he was getting beat upon the other side by the herd queen OR 3 week early kids looking like kids born right on time.
We can't WAIT to get the results of the DNA. When teh Lynnhaven buck was killed I was kicking myself for not having used him on the dbl Tumult granddaughter. When we were presented with this possibility...oh my! This would make my day...week....month?
The doe went into labor 3 weeks prior to her duedate according to whenshe went into the pen with the buck. We expected dead or dying kids. They were, to all appearances, fullterm, so we wracked our brains. We remembered that three weeks before she went in with the buck she spent about 12 hours on the other side of the fence from our 5 month old Lynnhaven buck. We had put our herd queen in the adjacent pen with the young buck because we thought she was in heat and wanted to seize the opportunity. There was no opportunity seized onbehalf of the herd queen because she spent the entire 12 hours beating the snot out of the young lad, in fact, everytime we checked on them, the buckling was hiding in the corner furthest from the herd queen and the adjacent pen. So...we never even considered that he could have bred through the fence when he wasnt even trying to do his stuff withthe herd queen, in fact seemed terrified of the does in general!
And those were the only two bucks on the property; the only 2 possibilities for breeding.
So...we had two seemingly impossible scenarios...a doebred by a very young buck through a cattle panel while he was getting beat upon the other side by the herd queen OR 3 week early kids looking like kids born right on time.
We can't WAIT to get the results of the DNA. When teh Lynnhaven buck was killed I was kicking myself for not having used him on the dbl Tumult granddaughter. When we were presented with this possibility...oh my! This would make my day...week....month?
In giving the girls their CD&T and bo-se shots about 3 weeks before the first doe was due, I noticed how huge Poptart was (Purebred Nubian), she always started making milk really early, and about a week from her due date I always milked her because she would get soo congested if I did not. I made a mental note to check her udder tommorrow because I think I am going to have to start already! She kidded the next day, with a bucking (yeah, he was deposited) 2 doelings (yeah)! So I am freaking she is soo early, she hadn't even gone into the pen with the buck yet, so she was 3 weeks early....not! the kids were fine.
I brought them in the house, to feed them colostrum, I didn't even have my kidding stuff together yet, and in picking up the buck to give him a really good look over before calling the new owner with the wonderful news, I remember thinking how strange it was that her being a red roan and the buck being from a very black and white family that these kids were very very white with some red...just like nearly all of Joni's LAMANCHA kids looked, then I saw he had no ears....
Sometime in July one of the LaMancha bucks had gotten in with her and bred her and then went back home....or she visited the buck pen, was bred and taken back home, or someone who nobody fesses up to, bred her and put her back. But to this day I have no idea how she got bred let alone to a LaMancha, and no bucks even on the fenceline.
I called the owner and told her no bucks were born in that kidding, would she like her second choice
So I doubt they are premie's and I have watched bucks try to get the right angle to breed through cattle panels for years, never.
Perhap devine intervention? Vicki
I brought them in the house, to feed them colostrum, I didn't even have my kidding stuff together yet, and in picking up the buck to give him a really good look over before calling the new owner with the wonderful news, I remember thinking how strange it was that her being a red roan and the buck being from a very black and white family that these kids were very very white with some red...just like nearly all of Joni's LAMANCHA kids looked, then I saw he had no ears....
Sometime in July one of the LaMancha bucks had gotten in with her and bred her and then went back home....or she visited the buck pen, was bred and taken back home, or someone who nobody fesses up to, bred her and put her back. But to this day I have no idea how she got bred let alone to a LaMancha, and no bucks even on the fenceline.
I called the owner and told her no bucks were born in that kidding, would she like her second choice
So I doubt they are premie's and I have watched bucks try to get the right angle to breed through cattle panels for years, never.
Perhap devine intervention? Vicki
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