Pending births.. How do you all keep this in check?

Discussion in 'Dairy Goat Info' started by KUrby, Nov 3, 2007.

  1. KUrby

    KUrby New Member

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    Ok, I have yet to kid out a goat, but have foaled out many horses, calfs,kittens, pups, you name it.. We all have our way of keeping tabs on them.. How do you do it??
    We now have cameras for foaling, but use to it was alot of sleepless nights..
    What is your protocol??
    It will be interesting to see how different we all do it?
    Karen
     
  2. Good Goats

    Good Goats New Member

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    When it's a doe's due date and we suspect that she is going to have them real soon (that night..,if it is not in the day), then we just set alarms for every 2 hours or so and check on her.
    Once we did this with a doe, and it was probably 11 or so at night and it looked like she may have them soon, but was not in labor yet and had just ate that evening like normal, so we just set alarms for every 2 hours and checked on her, and sure enough, at 5 am she had JUST popped out triplets!

    Suriyah
     

  3. Katarina

    Katarina New Member

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    Well, first you have lots and lots of children and you bribe them to go out and check for you ;)
     
  4. Ravens Haven

    Ravens Haven New Member

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    When I notice a doe is thinking about (starting to udder up and such) I keep a close watch not to close but close, when she has really uddered up I will sleep in the barn on a cot with sleeping bag so I can keep a close watch on her, My barn isn't really close to the house so in January it is too cold to keep walking back and forth so I crank up the heater and sleep in the barn, just some insight to my crazy world. Any hoo, last year (i know I am gonna regret saying this) all of my does kidding from 8am-1pm on the nose none in the wee hours at all, TG,

    Autumn
     
  5. BlissBerry

    BlissBerry Guest

    I induce all of my does to freshen on the weekends. I also have a barn camera system with 4 cameras and sound so I am able to montitor everything that goes on in the barn. I work 50-60+ hours a week at my 'real' job and can't imagine running to the barn to check on goats all the time!

    Sara
     
  6. Chaty

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    My girls get very vocal and want Momma there just in case...only had 1 or 2 that didnt get that way and they had theirs with not a problem...But most of them are real talkers and Yep I watch the udders also and when mine start getting tight I really start watching the backside too and checking ligaments too...
     
  7. cmharris6002

    cmharris6002 Guest

    Our kid/kidding barn is just outside me back door :lol I also have a barn cam. If a doe is getting close I move her into the a kidding stall at night and keep watch with the barn cam.

    Christy
     
  8. ozark_jewels

    ozark_jewels New Member

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    This method requires planning years ahead of time.<grin>
     
  9. KJFarm

    KJFarm Senior Member

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    Here are some signs to watch for:
    Udder: It will become noticebly larger within 24 hours of kidding - make a habit of checking that udder each day
    Tail Head (part of the spine between the top of hip bones and where the tail joins the body): It will start to hollow out on each side, and if you run your thumb and fingers on either side, from hip to tail, you will find that all the ligaments begin to disappear as labor draws near. It's good to start practicing this by comparing a non-bred doe to a pregnant one. When in labor it usually appears that the tail head is raised upward.
    Back Side: As pregnancy progresses the does start "springing" - the vulva area starts to swell and jiggles as they walk. It will be puffy and wrinkley at the same time. When the does are in labor, instead of being swelled outward, it is pulled inward.
    The doe will become much thinner looking and flanks will hollow out (unless she's loaded with kids)
    Signs of labor: Does usually will hide out or try to get away from the herd. They will do a lot of pawing (actually plowing :lol), stretching, "talking", and as they have contractions, they might stand on tippy toes, hunch up, and will pull their tails over their body. They do a lot of squating, they might pee and they might just squat until the contraction subsides. Sometimes the first sign of not feeling well is that they don't want to eat, but I've had many who ate, munched hay and chewed their cud through the whole ordeal.
    Pushing: When they start pushing, you need to watch the time. Don't let hours lapse in this phase. Usually when they really start pushing, they will break a water sack, but sometimes kid, water and all appears first. A normal presentation is 2 front feet, nose will be following on top of front legs. They can kid with one leg back, and hind feet first, but if this is your first kidding and you suspect a malpresentation, get help ASAP.
     
  10. KUrby

    KUrby New Member

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    Thanks KJ Farms!! that was a need to know ordeal there.. :thankyou
    OUr horses do the same thing near the tail head, so I am famaliar with that, but nice to know that the vulva goes in,, that's a new one..

    I am thinking about a camera and a baby monitor to listen as I don't think mine have sound. My old ones did, but I got some new ones and will have to check on that..
    K
     
  11. KJFarm

    KJFarm Senior Member

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    You're quite welcome!!! That was really a basic "crash course", but if you've attended births of horses, cows, etc., you'll be fine. Forgot to mention, some does get real lovey, dovey and they really like human company during labor. Not a crowd of people or lots of noise, and dogs really worry them, so make it as stress free as possible!!!! BTW, I've had does that were skittish does and really didn't like human hands on them, but if you were there to help them when they kidded, they became your best friend :biggrin!
     
  12. KUrby

    KUrby New Member

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    I can't wait till April!! They go see there boyfriend tomorrow!!
    k
     
  13. NubianSoaps.com

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    I start feeding only in the evenings, this way as they go down at 10 pm with their last meal, they have to ruminate through that big rumen full of food before they could kid, this means 99% a born during the day. But I am also a big ligiment girl, I also do cervic checks to see if I have time to run to town, and I have a baby montior I carry with me. I can be sound asleep listening to the girls pregnancy moaning, and it wakes me up from a dead sleep hearing someone pushing...course the same sound is made when they are itching their backside with their big ole pregnancy stomachs.

    Karen, the same things in goats and horses, the thurls have to loose their elasticity which means they loose contol over their tail head and their vulva has no muscle tone before they kid. Vicki
     
  14. Kaye White

    Kaye White New Member

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    :rofl ME,TOO!!!!!!! I enjoy my nights sleep too well!! I gave up "baby watches" YEARS ago and opted for DRUGS!!!
    This way, I get my nights sleep, my morning chores done, MY COFFEE, and I'm there for EVERY birth! With Toggies, there's no way, other than birth collars, to tell who belongs to whom!! I guess I could line all my birthing pens with 2x2 wire...but why?? I'm just there to catch kids, collar them, give them what they need and I'm happy with the results. :biggrin
    Kaye
     
  15. NubianSoaps.com

    NubianSoaps.com New Member

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    I'ts just so unnatural, and will lead to hormonal problems!


    Sorry having an HT moment :) I don't have any idea why I don't do that more! We used to, but it was the opposite, we kidded them out during the week while I was here and not getting ready for or going to a show on the weekend. Vicki
     
  16. Tracy in Idaho

    Tracy in Idaho New Member

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    Inducing births?! :really :shocked

    Hehe.

    Inquiring minds want to know what you're all using --- just lute, lute + dex, or just dex?

    Do you find that you do have the --what is it Kaye? -- 10% less milk from inducing?

    Tracy
     
  17. KUrby

    KUrby New Member

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    Oh :really I am not too sure about doing drugs!! LOL... I would worry about problems.. anyone have any doing this route?
    I think Vicki's route sounds pretty good... but the drugs sound on the money, but I am not too fond of drugs..
    Karen
     
  18. BlissBerry

    BlissBerry Guest

    I use Lut and Dex both. Never heard about the 10% less milk thing. I guess I don't see a problem with too little milk as we have several ADGA Breed Leaders. :D

    Sara
     
  19. Kaye White

    Kaye White New Member

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    :rolleyes Oh, brother!!! Vicki!!
    Trust me...if there was going to be a problem in...ummmm, let me see.....20 something years, I would have had a problem!

    Hhhhmmm...Sara has 3,000+ # milkers, me with several 3,000 # milkers...don't think I miss the 10% decrease in milk.??? :lol

    I use 2cc of Lute and 5cc of Dex. Oh, yea...given at the same time. Despite what is posted on groups. The dex helps the kids develop their lung tissue before delivery and seems to help the does.
    Kaye
     
  20. BlissBerry

    BlissBerry Guest

    Yep. EXACTLY what Kaye said. :biggrin

    Glad to hear someone agrees with me! ;)

    Sara