was wondering if there are others who could shed some light. my 2 are mother and daughter, and the daughter was handled from day one, was as tame as could be but is now being a royal pain! some days she refuses to be caught at all, and both her and the mother are just 'flighty'. the saanens and nubs i have are these laid back, easy going gals that are so easy to handle and be around. they know the routine and are happy to do it. (when to go to be fed, where they are tied while eating etc.) if they get loose outside they are jsut as friendly to walk up to and follow me as well. not the obers?! they run and jump and just act as if they've not been worked with. the mother isn't UN tame, just not very relaxed. is this an ober thing or am i just 'lucky' ?