:biggrin Oh Tim; You make it sound like so much more work with these little goats. There are some advantages with these little gals, especially if they are just family milkers. I only need 1/3 the room to keep them is one. If I can't get one to go to where I want him, I just pick him up and put him there. Just 2 of these gals can keep a average family in more milk than they will use. ( Some gals on this forum, won't fall in that average cat. I don't think :crazy). Oh yea, I was about to leave out the best part.......everybody that comes here always says stuff like "oh! they're so cute", "how adorable", and I'd liked to buy a couple from you when they have baby's. Of course, the last line is the best. :goat