I went and looked at the Nubian doe that is for sale, and she is a pretty nice doe. She has good general character, long straight front legs, and a nice Nubian face. Her ears are a little short, but they are definitely pendulous, her color is a nice red bay with a dark cream belly - black markings below her knees, frosted ears and nose. Small white patch on her poll. Her hind legs are nicely angled from the side, but her hocks come in SLIGHTLY, however with an udder between those legs, I think she may end up even more correct. She has very nice feet that her owner admitted never trimming, wear was very even and although they could use a little touching up, they looked recently trimmed. I checked her mouth because she does have a rather short face in my opinion, and she appears to have a slight under bite. The tips of her bottom teeth surpass the outer edge of her upper dental pad by mere fractions of an inch. I don't think the under bite is severe personally, but how severe of a fault is this in general in Nubians, and can it be easily bred away from? I decided that I want to buy her, but need to wait until after December 1, as I want to pull blood on her for bio-tracking and CAE, plus get an additional opinion on her bite. We did not exchange any monies so far, but I did make the offer of a deposit or more. We are also getting a HUGE LaBoer wether that is being dropped off at the other goat guy's place and he said he would butcher him for $25. He is probably 175-200 lbs. I am going to split it with a friend, as that is a lot of meat for someone who has never even tried it Also, could anyone make recommendations to Nubian breeders that are within my general area? My zip is 18353, I am in north eastern PA. I consider local a 3 hour drive these days I would be looking for buck services or buck sales for next fall, as she is begin bred to a Boer this year. The Boer is HUGE also! Probably a 225-250 lb buck. GORGEOUS tricolored paint buck. Really nice conformation on him too, and I also found out he is half Nubian as well, but he has the definite Boer influence and muscle mass! Kelly P.S. Whiskey is going great! She had her front feet on the top of the dog kennel that she is in last night, so definitely bearing more weight on her hind end!