I have a doe who lost her ligaments over 24 hrs ago, I can get my fingers nearly all the way round her tail bone. Yesterday morning she was pawing at the ground, glassy eyed, so I thought birth would be soon, Ive been checking on her throught the night but still nothing. As this is the first time I have been checking ligaments, to show she might be on the way, and according to a link I was posted, she should be on her way. I was wondering as all goats are different, can it be that even tho hers ligs are gone she can take longer than the 10/12 hrs as stated ( actually ) in 2 links. Goats code of honour and all that? Its just a general sign not a definate one? Most of my goats are due this weekend, and all go out to pasture with the village flock, I dont want to keep them in needlessly. 2 have detached ligaments the rest dont, would a good way to tell when to keep them, be when the ligaments detach? I mean if ligs arent detached and I send them out they are not going to give birth in the 8 hours they are with the flock?