Something Vicki said in the Obie thread prompted me to create this post. Vicki, I think you said something about "the ADGA judges withholding 1st place ribbons in the Oberhasli shows" and you expressing a desire to improve the LaManchas or something like that. I was wondering what are the goals for some of you LaMancha breeders out there and opinions of those even with other breeds. What do you see as a weakness in the breed overall, strengths? What can be improved upon? What is a given within the breed? What needs to be whatched for and culled heavily for. What is the ideal lamancha doe and buck? What exactly is the difference between "old style" and new. I am breeding 50% recorded LM grades to a reg. LM buckling. Those resulting doelings will be 75% and I am already considering breeding season for them next fall. My 2009 doelings will be 87.5% and that is reg. American if I am not mistaken....I can only imagine that they will be far removed in style from the original LM I have started with, hopefully not losing production/capacity/hardiness in the process. So what is on the horizon for LaManchas?