Wow! So glad for all that discussion a few weeks ago about getting in there and checking things out. IT WORKED JUST LIKE Y'ALL SAID. I am soo glad I checked right as soon as she really was dilated and pushing. That buckling had his head turned off to the side and it would have been much harder to correct if things had been really tight and piled up. As it was it took a little time, moving slowly, but was not all that difficult. Having your descriptions was like a road map, I knew where I was. There was plenty of room for me to put my arm in. I put my knee under her belly like Vicki described and only went in about mid forearm to reach the back.