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I am confused about emergency calcium treatments. :crazy

I'd rather inject than drench or try oral stuff, but not sure about using the gluconate 23%. Either y'all are going to talk me through using that or suggest another injectable.

On the oral side don't want something that burns them up - which is what y'all say about the CMPK gel, Goat's Prefer Drench - stuff w/ propylene glycol - right?

The oral CMPK liquid (at QC supply) only states cal, phos, mag, pot, and dextrose no amounts...
MFO (at jeffer's) per 500ml 10 gr. cal (borogluconate), 6 gr phos, 2.8 gr mag,.5 gr pot, 75 gr dex... As far as I can tell the proportions of minerals in MFO is comparable to the CMPK gel. In the gel the propylene glycol (for energy?)and in the MFO there is the dextrose.

Or I go back to Sue Reith's substitute. I got confused in the article about when she was talking CMPK, liquid human cal/mag, and tablet forms. Perhaps some one could interpret for me? Where is she talking about the CMPK and where is she talking liquid cal/mag.
I did get that in the recipe from tablets there should be-
600 mg cal
266 mg phos
100 mg mag
500 mg pot

In 32 ml/cc of MFO (16 doses per bottle I rounded off for even ml doses ... divided the 500ml bottle by 16) there is-
625 mg cal
375 mg phos
175 mg mag
31.25 mg pot
Potassium is way way lower in the MFO. and WOW 32 ccs!! :help2 every 2 hrs.

OK, clear as mud?
 

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OK if you have a sick doe you need injectable cmpk from the vet.
I use the liquid cmpk or make my own per Sue's recipe I found the liquid calcium magnesium at the health food store. (KAL) brand name has
600mg cal 300mg Phos 300mg of Mag 500 IU of Vit D per 15 cc then I got the Potassium in another bottle
 

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Sondra said:
OK if you have a sick doe you need injectable cmpk from the vet.
Only RX? Rotten, cause I am going to visit another vet or two if I have funds for it, but so far two who only want to do farm calls ($ I don't have especially if off hours!!!) and one even admitted he hates goats :laughcry No sick goats; just stocking the basics in meds.

I use the liquid cmpk or make my own per Sue's recipe I found the liquid calcium magnesium at the health food store. (KAL) brand name has
600mg cal 300mg Phos 300mg of Mag 500 IU of Vit D per 15 cc then I got the Potassium in another bottle

thinking this is the way to go as the volume to administer would be so much less if I guessed the 32 cc dosage correctly
 

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Call your farm vet and ask to get the RX meds needed for emergencies if you can't get them then contact me privately. you need the injectable on hand and then follow up with the home brew or liquid.
 

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For the sake of being able to appear intelligent and informed at my next "vet visit" what is the dosage for injectable CMPK?
 

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I use Norcalciphos, which is similar to CMPK. My vet presctibed 30cc subQ twice a day and said that since so much is given at a time, to give it in several spots.
 

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MFO is good orally - just add some gatorade to it so that it isn't so harsh. We have given it this way to our does when they made us nervous and also to Titania when she got shaky on us the day after kidding. One dose of the MFO - 60ccs - and she was back on her feet and fine. For a goat with ketosis or milk fever everyone recommends the injectable CMPK (the does hate it because it burns, and I hate it because they usually get an owie there).

Dose for CMPK is 30ccs SubQ. Warmed is better (not so painful, they say, but my goats don't agree).
Use an 18 gauge needle, it is hard to get that stuff in.
 
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