My friend needs ideas---this is an email I just got from him. If you have any ideas I will forward them to him. He lives 7 hours from me so I cant help him. Oh yes this is on over 100 acres. Well we have 2 goats now too!!! Only problem is, they're the goats from Heck. A week ago their owner was moving them from his mother's house to my neighboring property, which he recently bought. So of course, as the owner from Heck, he thought it would be a great idea to have his dogs loose where he released the goats, and - wonder of wonders - the goats panicked and ran away when his dogs "played" with them. Direct quote: "I don't understand it. Those goats acted like the dogs were hunting them or something." Just my luck, the goats picked my place as their new home. They are very wild and very destructive. They have climbed all over our vehicles and damaged the paint on my Toyota pickup. The llamas and cats hate them, and they've eaten many of Laura's plants. I've been feeding and watering them and got them to eat alfalfa out of my hand and grain from a bucket. We used the grain to lure them into the portable panels, but they only took about 15 seconds to squeeze out through the rails. They are impossible to herd with 4 knowledgable people. Laura and I, with Rick and Michelle the goat people from the head of the driveway, tried again for 2 hours this morning. No success. Now they are more spooked than ever. Their stupid owner has taken no responsibility so far ("my back went out"), although he does claim he'll try tomorrow afternoon. I told him to bring 6 people minimum and that I was done trying to help. The switchboard person at Animal Control was not very encouraging but said she would have a field person contact me. Hasn't happened. I was hoping for a tranquilizer gun, as that's the only way I can see getting these goats under control. The sad thing is the owner may end up shooting them if he can't get them off my property. The even sadder thing is that Laura and I are so fed up with dealing with them and all the damage they've done that we think that's not such a bad idea. I know that sounds horrible, and I felt sorry for them at first, but it feels like they have taken over my life. Everything is constantly "where are the goats? what are they ruining now?" If you have any ideas/thoughts please let me know!