Government Systems and Consequences of SARS-CoV-19

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by skeeter, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. skeeter

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    Brought over to expound on a subject not acceptable to the original forum.

    Someone might as well use this software for something.
     
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  2. CaramelKitty

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    Hi!
    It’s sad to see this site so..lost...kinda nice to be able to say whatever you want...
     

  3. Trollmor

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    Ahh! Now I can type! Which of the forums do you prefer, friends?
     
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  4. skeeter

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    We could bring it back to life if we wanted. There's some good information here but, a lot is missing like about 10 years worth. Watching goatspot remake the same mistakes is painful lol.

    My first question is WHY is this different? We've had many outbreak diseases, some of them way more severe than this one. Are the PTB trying to see how many countries are under control?
    There's never been any other scenario that involved locking the whole world in their apartments. There's something seriously wrong with this.
     
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    Wow..I wouldn’t ever want TGS to be..gone.
    It’s so much better than BackYard Herds and some of those other forums..
     
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  7. healthyishappy

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    Yes, I have to agree.
    This one. Because we can have more people.
     
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  8. healthyishappy

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    So, on to definitions.

    Like CaramelKitty said (something like this): "Socialists are equal at the finish line, Capitalists are equal at the starting line"
    I agree with this except for the fact that not all capitalists are equal are the starting line in some aspects, BUT they DO have equal opportunity.

    To further expound,
    My definition of socialism is a society that everything is controlled by the government. You do not own anything. So basically you give them everything and they ration it back out. This COULD be a good system of government IF they government was honest. But usually you end up with a dictator. I just don't like the idea of not being able to support myself and having to rely on the government.

    Capitalists,
    Basically, you have the right to make as much money as you want and keep it. You also do not (well should not) get help from the government. And all assets you have are yours.

    Communism,
    Basically socialism with a dictator and a "Off with his head" if you oppose the dictator.
    Just UGH! If you look at history you see that having a dictator NEVER works out. Look at WWII, look at Stahlin.

    Well that's it for now. I'd like others definitions and ideas.
     
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  9. healthyishappy

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    Interesting fact. Did you know bill gates has a patent on the coronavirus? Kinda weird.
    I'll post a link later.
    Also that the CDC should be coming out with a vaccine soon. Do you know how long it takes to make a vaccine and test it?? YEARS! YEARS!
     
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  10. healthyishappy

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    People first started thinking up socialism because they were poor and worked for the bourgeoisie. They hated getting poor wages when the bourgeoisie made tons of money off their hard work. In short, they didn't want any rich people because they didn't think it fair that someone didn't have to work and could be rich off of them. But IMO if you have the financial education, then you deserve to be rich. People don't want to start businesses. And that is why they are working at walmart. I'm not saying anything is wrong with working at walmart or such stores, i'm saying nobody should get mad that the owners of the store makes money off of their work because the workers don't want to start a business of their own.
     
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    I agree. Some people enjoy the simplicity of working at a store while others are better at owning and running businesses. I believe some countries may be able to pull-off socialism however, there are some countries that it just doesn't work for at all. Something interesting to note, the USA is not fully capitalist. It is an interventionist society. Personally, I would rather have a free market and a capitalist society.
     
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    I have heard that! Since it is patented, it means that it is man-made. Here's an interesting clip I found from a speech by Bill Gates.

    It is no surprise to me that this man wants the population to go way down, and doesn't care if he has to kill people by releasing a virus..these people are sick.
     
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  14. Trollmor

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    PTB =?

    (And what mistakes are you referring to?)

    This disease is serious, but I agree that there might have been better opportunities before it got world wide. Here we are really getting close to politics, so I stop here. ;)
     
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    I think you are right. The whole country of Saudi Arabia is closing, mainly because nobody buys its oil for the moment. But, as I said, here we get into politics again ...
     
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    Agree in many respects, but as I have experienced socialism it has nothing to do with dictatorship. As I might have mentioned, I grew up in it, and there you could talk about equality on the starting line. Then, of course, you have to work to make a progress.

    I never understood the difference between Hitler and Stalin, but, they were both dead when I was born.

    I visited friends in the Soviet Union, and my memories from the customs there came back to me with great force, when I, years later, had to pass into - the USA...

    The starting line for capitalists is anything but equal. My experience.
     
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    Bill Gates of all people??? Is that really checked to be true?

    And, yes, normally 3-4 years for a vaccin. Some rumours say we MIGHT get one by New Year, but not many medically educated people seem to believe that.
     
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    So far I agree. But not the following:
     
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  20. skeeter

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    Before you argue yourself into a hole sticking up for the wrong thing...
    Sweden is not a socialist nation, it is a social democracy.
    Cuba is socialist, so is Venezuela.
     
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