Do some does just not like some bucks?

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  1. Ashley

    Ashley Active Member

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    I have a doe that I'm thinking just doens't care for younger bucks.. Last year the buck I had was young, small but big enough to reach. When Penny would be in heat, having discharge and swollen.. she still didn't like the buck. I'd put them together and she'd just beat him up, I'd try to hold her and she'd dance (as did her daughter). I left them both in with him since I couldn't get them to hand breed and Penny never got bred, though her daughter did. So this year, I have a younger buck again (different one) He's probably 70 lbs, maybe bigger. He knows what to do (this other buck coulda maybe used a little viagra) and is all about trying to breed the girls, so I'm happy about that. But even when Penny seems to be in heat, she doesn't stand for him. I held her and she kinda danced and then stood still. It seemed like when he would go ahead and mount she would stand still then. But she doesn't like when he's doing his tongue flapping and whatnot. If I just leave them together, she won't let him breed her at all. Or maybe it's just because it's her first heat this year? I really want he bred, I think he may have got her, will have to wait on the blood test. :help
     
  2. BlissBerry

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    I have a few older girls who just won't stand for baby bucks. They want a man with more experience. :)

    Sometimes I trick them by letting the older bucks blubber her face while the young buck breeds her. Works like a charm. ;)

    Sara
     

  3. Patty13637

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    Works like a charm....hmm but then you have to deal with a fully grown pissed off buck ! :crazy :rofl

    Guess I would be having Hubby hold him !



    Patty
     
  4. BlissBerry

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    I guess I should have added that the mature buck is on the outside of the fence while the doe in heat and baby buck on are the inside.

    My bucks are very well mannered so I don't have the issue of a mad buck. I run the show, not them. :)

    Sara
     
  5. Agape Oaks

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    We had a doe who we took back to the breeder we got her from to be bred & she disliked the bucks we chose for her. We didn't get her bred until we finally bought a buck ( who she liked thank heavens!). Last year she disliked our 1st choice too & we ended up switching who we bred her too. She sits like a dog & makes it very obvious :). We now have 4 bucks & have buck number 5 reserved.....& to think I said I'd never have a buck :)
     
  6. :yeahthat Pam, I also said I wouldn't have one either, but now I do and am on the prowl for another. It will be interesting to see how Theodon does this year. He sure is getting stinky and ALL the girls are pie-eyed. Even the older doe. Tammy
     
  7. wheytogosaanens

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    Early on with our Boers, we had a young Saanen buck penned with a young Boer buck. We penned them adjacent to a doe pen that we were watching for signs of heat....

    Needless to say, the Boer does fell in love with that tall elegant young man in the white tuxedo, while my Saanen fell in love with the macho looking Boer buck! :rofl

    To their chagrin, we hand-bred them to OUR bucks of choice - and then they went back to mooning over the sweetheart of their choice through the fence... Too funny, really.
     
  8. BlissBerry

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    :yeahthat

    No way is ANY doe going to change the breeding plans that I have made for them. If they don't like the buck of choice... too bad. :)

    Sara
     
  9. Agape Oaks

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    :yeahthat

    No way is ANY doe going to change the breeding plans that I have made for them. If they don't like the buck of choice... too bad. :)

    Sara
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    On our doe who refused to be bred at the breeders house & who missed that whole year....when bred to the young buck that we bought, she produced a gorgeous doeling, far better then she is, who was best jr doe in show her 1st time out at about 8 weeks old & has now freshened with a beautiful udder & was reserve twice this year as a 1st freshener. Of course no way to know what she would have produced had she been bred to the buck we chose :)...but it worked out OK for us.
     
  10. BlissBerry

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    You don't breed Nubians. ;)

    Sara
     
  11. Sondra

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    AH I have one Nubian who wouldn't stand for my nubian buck the first year so ended up breeding her to my MM buck so I would have at least babies and milk was late July babies. Next year she did ok with the nubian buck but last year it was a NO once again and I have a stupid honking big dry doe again this year.
     
  12. NubianSoaps.com

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    You'll ruin your young buck for breeding that year letting him get beaten up by the girls. Worse is he will become agressive with the does and you don't want this when he is older.

    I sort of treat my bucklings with kid gloves. I clip them once they are in rut in the pen if they have any bad behavior at all so I don't have to discipline them when they have no blood in their brain. I teach mine to stand on a longe line and I would never let an older doe beat them up or even nip at them.

    The head through the fence of the older doe being romanced by the older buck while youngster breeds her from behind is a wonderful trick. Vicki
     
  13. Kaye White

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    Have used that one MANY times! "Sneak attack!" I plan for 6 months who's getting bred to whom...a doe is NOT changing my mind because she's not attracted.?
    Hhhhmmmm....wonder if that would work with AI??? Nawww....ain't going there, it's hard enough dealing with hubby giving advice???? and doe wondering what the HECK...then add a shaggy, raging, bundle of testosterone. Nope, will pass.
    Kaye
     
  14. Ashley

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    Well, glad to know I'm not the only one! I don't have any big manly bucks to woo her with, she will just have to get happy anyway. I'm hoping her daughter is ok, because I can't hardly hold her, she does this rear and leap in the air thing, she thinks she's a horse, and she's very quick and strong!
     
  15. Kaye White

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    Heat changes their whole outlook on life. Clip her to the fence. BUT, with all this, make sure the doe is in heat.

    We've bred horses for years and had people say...my mare won't stand for stud, she kicks and runs. We refuse to use breeding hobbles and have bred "problem mares" without them. They were not catching the mares in a good standing heat. ;)
    Kaye
     
  16. MRFBarbara

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    I also wont' stand for a doe picking and chosing.. who is going to breed her.. i choose..
    I might just try the older buck thru the fence tho.. sounds good to me.. but to tell you all the truth, I have little girls and when they don't cooperate.. I just hold them and make them do what I want..
    Barbara
     
  17. Ravens Haven

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    Yep I had a doe like that it didn't matter what stage of heat she was in, she wasn't standing for a buck, so I decided to AI to the buck she was to be bred too, she settled TWIN does, go figure so that is what I will do again this year. But I am not changing breeding plans b/c she don't like him we work around it.


    Autumn
     
  18. Kaye White

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    :rofl Well, Autumn...that's definately another choice!
     
  19. Ashley

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    Yay! Jodi came into heat today and I put her in with the buck and he bred her, just like normal goats! lol