A woman called me asking if I have any Nubian bucks available. She had leased a buck and it died while in her care. I questioned her as to the cause of it's death. She didn't know. She then went on to say she lost seven of her goats in the late summer. She said they seemed off so she gave them a shot of Nuflor. They seemed to inprove, but then she found them dead about a week later. She has other goats that never got sick. She said her older goats did better and the goats she lost were newer goats, but not so new that it was the result of a feed change. All the goats had received their CDT shots, had no feed changes, the hay was cured and the goats were penned and had no access to poisonous weeds. She gives them goat minerals and soda. She had one goat necropsied and they didn't find anything. She uses the same vet I do, and he's a preety good vet. He didn't know what was wrong with the sick ones. She said she worms with Safeguard, so I told her to use Ivermectin instead, to take the temperatures of any sick goats, to give a full course of antibiotics if they are needed and to call me next time she has a sick goat. She seems to be doing more right things than a lot of new goat owners, but is still missing something. Any ideas what may be going on with her goats. I'd like to sell her some of my goats in the spring, but I want to make reasonably sure they will be OK.