Would like to have a critique done on Ava, for the judge was not to happy with her. Since we are such newbies toshowing it would be good for Lindsey to know what to work on. She also wants to know where the udder attchkents should be. Anybody got an excellent site for us?
I just got my Linear Apraisal booklet a few weeks ago. The comparative drawings are very good the descriptions and informationg are thorough and exact (down to measuring and scoring by inches!). Make sure you have a labelled dairy goat diagram to go with it, if you are unfamiliar with all the "parts" of the goat...like Chine and Thurls. :biggrin I am new and can only see obvious things (udder attachment) but not the little things all of the great ones can see! I hope to participate when our Alpine breeder does LA this spring. Just to see what I have...but I don't want to embarass myself with my "backyard dairy goats". :blush
I'm gonna get that book! We are newbies too. But i figure the only embarassment would be is to not ask questions and get as much information we can to improve the goats we have. At least when I decide to show goats myself I won't be as naive as Lindsey's first year of 4-H, what a nightmare. Thank You Vicki. Your the greatest. :biggrin
Linear Appraisal is a great tool. Never be embarrassed. the appraisers are there to help you and it is an excellent time to ask lots of questions....like, what do you mean by "out at point of shoulder?" or "uphill" or....whatever has you puzzled.
Also, much better to appraise with someone else so that you can watch their animals be appraised...more learning opportunities.
At our first appraisal we did okay, but the gal hosting the apprasial had several 92 EEEE
does, so was able to get the appraiser to agree to evaluate her GCH doe (again, quickly)
so that I could SEE all the points I had learned about with my goats. It was very nice of both of them.
P.S. I should have studied the Appraisal book a little better beforehand, but sure did after the fact!
Just to see what I have...but I don't want to embarass myself with my "backyard dairy goats".
LA is really not about show goats (although it is used as a tool to prove quality)...it's about improvement. If your backyard dairy goats are registered with ADGA than appraise them, this will help you see if the buck you are choosing to use is really helping you or not. I know when I first started out those bucks that my "mentor" and boy do I use that term loosely, allowed me to use, I noticed later on she never used herself Bucklings for sale were never out of her best bucks to people in the area....well you get it. If I had appraised just once, I would have been able to see it way before 4 seasons later! Vicki
TWELVE?! Wow! ONLY?! I was invited to bring my three to be appraised with our breeder! I am curious so see how our $45 Clover, the Super doe does. :biggrin Here's her picture at 12 months after freshening. I don't have any better of her. Will have to wait until after she kids and sheds this spring. She's my "backyard dairy goat"! :biggrin
If you pay for the full stop...think it's $250 now, than shoot do 1 goat if you want. For me it is soo much better than spending your money going to a show. The only problem with doing it by yourself when you are new, is that there are no other goats around for the appraiser to perhaps show you what he means. I know my goats were used as guinea pigs at two appraisals, one was fun the guy learned alot, the other the breeder got his panties all in a wad and it was not fun. So when new I can see that going to a group appraisal if other breeders allow you to watch, would be a much better learning tool. But I do prefer alone. ADGA makes more money on small stops done all day rather than one big one, so can't see how they mind if your area is being done. Penny is great, ask her. Vicki
"LA is really not about show goats (although it is used as a tool to prove quality)...it's about improvement. "
I took the phrase on face value because of who said it to me over and over but until I actually DID LA I didnt "get it". Once we DID it, I could see clearly how you can trace both strengths and weaknesses in a herd, by sire or by dam line and compare what is working and what obviously isn't. Having done it once, then skipping a year has led me to commit that we will NEVER skip another year again, regardless of circumstances. Fact is, I dont care if I have to leave LA to go inside and have my baby this Spring then go back outside and finish LA we are NOT skipping this year, PERIOD.
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