C&D ANTITOXIN dose clarification

I need clarification on the C&D ANTItoxin dosage. Amount (for both kid and adult), duration, etc. I have read conflicting information and the dosages aren't given in the Sue Rieth articles. Thank you.

 

Thanks. I try to refer to the Saanendoah articles but at times I have found that the information given is different from what others on this list say. For example, Lysigin. I believe that the label dosages are what Saanendoah gives. Thanks again.

 

C&D ANTITOXIN-From Dairy Goat 101

"I personally use 9 cc each side giving alternate sides at 3 cc ea time and then 6 or 9 cc orally this is a total of 18 cc injected SQ and 6 or 9 cc orally
This also may need to be done every 4 hrs. REMEMBER the antitoxin will not hurt the goat and may just save it's life better to error on too much in this one instance."

"DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION:
For prevention lasting approximately 3 weeks, the following doses should be administered subcutaneously:

Suckling Lambs, Goats and Pigs
5 ml

Suckling Calves, Feeder Lambs & Pigs
10 ml

Feeder Calves and Cattle
25 ml

For treatment, double the preventative dose.


A more rapid effect can be achieved by intravenous administration, with repeat dosages as often as 12 hour intervals."



Here's where I need help. Kaye, you say for kids 12 weeks and under give 10ML. Got it. That's double the dose. But what about adult goats? Is the 12 hour interval correct? I am asking what the dosages and duration would be for a goat suffering from enterotoxemia and in crisis.

 

And yes, I too saw that what Sondra quoted was for toxoid and not antitoxin. That's okay.

 

Yes. 10 cc for kids 12 weeks and under. So, for adults, I'd use the 18cc plus the 6-9 orally? Also, when do you decide whether or not to re-dose? And yes, I have the rest of the treatment listed...Banamine, oil, baking soda, pepto, antibiotics but only after the antitoxin. Trying to get my notes in order!

 

Again, sorry, but when would you repeat the dose? Under what circumstances? I've never had a case of entero. I want to make sure I know how to use the antitoxin properly.

 

Thank you. I wanted to make sure I KNEW what to do before I ever have a problem, lest I am unable to make immediate contact! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Repeat dosage until improvement.

 

Okay, great! A few more questions. Have you ever heard that giving C&D Antitoxin to a bred doe can cause problems? Also, and I have been reading, but just need some clarification, bloat, acidosis, enterotoxemia...Is entero the final stage of a severe case of over-eating? I know a goat can just simply have bloat. And I really don't know much about acidosis or enterotoxemia. I'm just trying to figure it all out. If a goat did in fact progress from bloat to enterotoxemia, would death be the final outcome if the antitoxin were not administered? How are all these relatated or are they? When would the antitoxin become neccessary?

 

We've not had a case of what I would call "serious" bloat. When we got our first milking doe she was not used to lush grass and we had that. We kept her off of it and slowly introduce her to it. One morning she had the bloated left side, up level with her back. We gave her a bloat treatment and walked her around until she pooped. Poor thing, we gave her diarrhea with the bloat treatment! Other than that we've only had mild cases of bloat, which sometimes I think was merely a full rumin and a panicing child!

How would you describe "serious" bloat?

How would you describe "accidosis"?

What would we see in a case of enterotoxemia?

What would you call it when a goat "vomits" up brown cud or frothy mucus along with a bloated side? Or slinging very wet cud and musus while coughing?

These are just circumstances I've heard of but never witnessed except in our ancient Mama Ewe.