:update (Thank you Sara for your help today) I had to go in because she was not progressing, I believe she may really be low in copper I had a hard time breaking the sack. dark fluid came out baby in distress, then I broke through the bag all the way and so much fluid I was drenched. I have never seen so much fluid. the first baby was really hard to get out because she had been dead a few days, visibly smaller than the other eyes shrunken in , a really colorful Sable saanen omg. light tan on one side with dark silver splash on the other. way down deep inside I felt another kid and began to arrange it. Had to break through that sack as well. I was surprised when it pulled back :biggrin Doe number two. Saanen , then fishing down deep the other way, I found another bag after breaking it I could not reach I had to hug UP while pushing down into her deep belly to grab whatever I grabbed I pulled it up to get a hold of it, and positioned it, and surprisingly this one also alive and the Third doe. both have correct teats as well. : ) I gave pagan another check bounced her, hugged up and checked far in. gave her a 1/2 cc of oxytocin. (Have NO idea if that was right or not) but if she need s more more is easier to do than less : ) Sent the older boy out with Hot sugar water for her. Now. is there something else I should do with her. like a syringe of oxytocin in the uterus? or antibiotics? the dead kid wasn't at all decomposed. Should I give her more calcium today Injec CMPK? I did give her some Coral calcium (for people ) in her sugar water.