Well i've posted before about coughing and some snot issues i've had with the three kids i bought this year from two different farms. It's been going on since June i belive. I've consulted with my vet and had him visit several times, and consulted with the farms i got them from. We have tried Biomycin, penn. G, Nuflor, and have all have been wormed and had cocci prevention. It was just these three kids till about 3-4 weeks ago, now my doe i've had the longest and one of her kids has the same thing going on. So now all but one of my bucklings, a Feb. doeling, and another doeling ( twin of the one now showing signs ) have this. They cough - but yet nothing comes out and vet says lungs sound clear. The kids before had snot/crusty noses, then after some of the treatments we've tried just the cough remained. Now i haven't noticed snot with them again, maybe just a bit of crusty here and there. However the two others have the cough and the snot - if they sneeze white snot comes out. I've also noticed when the one doeling that nurses her dam is done nursing she has snot - she isn't supposed to be nursing, and i plan to do near 100% hand raised kids this next spring, but her dam i let raise her kids this year ( my herd has always tested CAE neg. ) - then i weaned them and had them seperate for 1.5 mo. and low and behold, she let them start nursing again - so now that i have my bucklings i also don't have a seperate pen anymore - any ideas how to really wean them so i can dry her up ? Anyways back to the real issue - sorry :+) There have never been any high temps in anyone - and i continue to randomly take them to make sure. Nobody has ever acted off - they run, play, eat and drink normally. We were thinking at first with just the 3 maybe lung worms, so we did 3 treatments of ivermecting at 10 days appart. No luck, now at the end of that was when the vets last visit was ( Mon. ). Vet also said now after that worming round, and now spreading like this and that i'd have to have bad management ( and said and you don't ) he doubts lungworm. Again, all lungs still sound ok. But they do cough, and have snot - and the vet has seen this on his visits. One doeling that i bought and has had this problem since the beginning also sounds congested - like when she is eating, or when i bend down to love on her i hear bubbling/noise when she breaths - the others aren't like this. I'm just REALLY feeling at a loss here and want my herds health 100% again. At first after our treatments vet said, maybe it is something that just has to run it's course. Now he says he is not thinking so as it's been so long ??? And he admits, he is kinda stumped but is determined to help me solve this - so i'm asking all of you for ideas for us. He says he has two options for me. We can throw things at them and treat all the herd ( 3 mature does, 5 doelings, 2 bucklings ) and see if that works, but he said if we are not lucky and find the cause/solution it could cost me more then option #2 - if we did this, do any of you have a good reccomendation of what to try ? Two of my does may be bred as well - i really need these two to freshen in Feb. - but of course, i will put there health first and re-breed if need be. Option #2 is bring one of the kids up to the office that shows the symptoms, put her under ( he said he would use the gas - is this safe ? he said he has used it many times with kids and has been ok, and knows i worry about it with my goats and my pot belly ) and borrow an endoscope, go into the throat/lungs, get a sample and send it to the lab for a culture and then go from there. Est. cost around $150 - the culture alone is $60 - is there a lab that we could send to that is cheaper ( he asked me to ask you too ) or is this standard price ? He said we could try to just send in some snot, but chances are it would grow too many things and be inconclusive and most likely a waste of money. He has also brought up mycoplasma before - i'm about to try to research this more as well. He hasn't mentioned anything lately about it, so may not really think thats what this is. Could it be though ? If so, HOW can i test for it ? And can i treat it ? I'm feeling defeated and REALLY need input from you all please. He keeps telling me not to stress too much, nobody is going to die, or suffer for life, as nobody acts off, lungs sound good - we just need to figure it out - can i trust this ? On a funny note, as we did bose shots and exams of everybody, when he was doing my buckling Cadbury, he was bending down looking him over while i was on the other side holding him, and Cadbury aimed and pee'd all over his leg - lol - he and his tech helper even got a giggle over it as i said, "ummm, he is peeing on you, sorry ". Sorry this is so long, and confusing. Thanks for reading all my ranting.