Anchoring scents with citrus peel

Discussion in 'Soap Making' started by KUrby, Nov 8, 2007.

  1. KUrby

    KUrby New Member

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    Anyone do this? If so how are you dehydrating your peels? 170 in the oven for ???
    I heard that you could do this and want to know how.. don't want to loose all the scent.
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  2. sunnygrl_ks

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    I pretty much let the freezer dry them out... i get a bag and just start chucking the peels into it until its full, then zap them in the coffee bean grinder...what i don't use goes back in the freezer.
     

  3. Sheryl

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    Hmmmm ;) that's a good idea. Why hadn't I thought of that. :yeahthat

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  4. NubianSoaps.com

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    I can't see how that could even work. Scent is made up of top notes, mid notes and base notes. Without a base note...Patch or Cubia Listia etc...your citrus top notes will dissapate. It's what I use my patch for, to seat my high not only essential oil scents. Vicki
     
  5. KUrby

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    I want to do a orange soap and a grapefruit soap.. so How would you divide the scent? using Patch?
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  6. Sheryl

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    :/ ohh gee Vicki, you just zoomed over my head like a jet plane. :help2

    I have a lot to learn.....someday explain that to me :sigh

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  7. NubianSoaps.com

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    With Lillians Grapefruit, her blend, my blend for eucalyptus and the lemon, I simply add about .5 patch (it's a really good one) to my scent....well for 7 pounds to 14 pounds of butters and oils. It doesn't take much. Vicki
     
  8. KUrby

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    I am only going to do a small batch just one tray on the MM mold. OP. Lillian suggests 1% EO up to 1.8% so say that is .80 ounce of scent. Would you use say .65 for orange and grapefruit and .15 for Patch?
    I am not mixing grapefruit and Orange these will be seapart batchs
     
  9. NubianSoaps.com

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    Sorry I can't do it in my head...but obviously if I am using 4 or 5 ounces of scent and use .5 of patch, it's alot less than what you are stating. You don't have to smell the patch in the batch for it to seat your citrus or mint scents. Vicki
     
  10. BlissBerry

    BlissBerry Guest

    I recently soaped Lillian's Autumn/Winter Blend for the Swap and I used .5 oz of Patchouli (MM batch) to seat the scent. I just used a bar in the shower this morning and I couldn't smell the Patchouli, but the blend smells divine! :D

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  11. kidsngarden

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    Vicki-

    I did the math so between 8-10% of your fragrance is patch or you can see it this way - 9 part citrus to 1 part patch.

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  12. NubianSoaps.com

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    Thanks Bethany! I couldn't do any of this without my calculator and borrowing my duaghters brain! Vicki
     
  13. KUrby

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    And only GOD knows I couldn't do ANY of this without ALL of you and special thanks to vicki and Lillian!! :thankyou2
    vicki is my soul support group, I would NOT be doing what I am doing or have my goaties without her.
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  14. cmharris6002

    cmharris6002 Guest

    Orris Root and ground citrus peel will act as a fixative for soap because the fragrance adheres deeply to them and does not fade out. I use 1 Tbl ground citrus peel for 7lb butters and oils. It is the same thing as using dendridic salt, which is crystallized in a vacuume so that it is very porous, to anchor fragrance for bath salts.

    I like to hang citrus notes on patchouli too! Base notes also serve the purpose of a fixative but in a different way. They give power to the fragrance while the powders make it stick like glue.
     
  15. KUrby

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    Christy do you dry your own citrus peel.. if so could you please tell me in detail how to do it?
    Karen
     
  16. cmharris6002

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    :rofl I have never even thought of drying my own!

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  17. KUrby

    KUrby New Member

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    Well heck :crazy
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  18. NubianSoaps.com

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    I can see a fixative working in dry products, but I can't imagine it working through saponification. The only thing that works in soap chemically would be a complete fragrance...bottom note, top note, mid note. Like in lotion. In soap if you burn off anything it's always your top notes. Now I am going to have to go through all my old notes :) Vicki
     
  19. KUrby

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    I will try orange EO with a little patch and see how that soaps. :/
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  20. cmharris6002

    cmharris6002 Guest

    Burn off is just evaporation. If the scent is gelled or solidified is stands to reason that the evaporation rate is going to be decreased :):

    I personally wouldn't use orris, but I think Benzoin powder is also used as a fixative. The citrus peel should be ground to a vary fine powder...

    Christy