Well, we had a first freshener abort this past weekend ..... she was 29 days early. Our first ever. It was gross and nasty, and mama-goat retained the membranes. As we did not have Lute or Oxytocin, I hesitantly called the vet... (they have not been real helpful in the past with goats.) Although, on Christmas eve, I had to take a urine sample in from our dog, and while there, I asked to buy some injectable CMPK... the lady vet, (I had never met her) told me she probably shouldn't sell it to us, as she had not seen our goats in over a year... I calmly told her they had NEVER seen our goats, but that we may need cmpk this kidding season.... She sold me two bottles. LOL! I was SO nervous when I told her that, but oh well! I just said it.......... Anyway, I think they have a new goat-gal vet working among them! YAY! :biggrin She was GREAT! Of course it was saturday night, and she put up some Lute for me... I went and got it late sat. night, it did not work, so Monday am, she sold me oxytocin, and 4 injections later, our poor sick Ashleigh Banfield finally passed the afterbirth! We ARE disappointed, as we were REALLY looking forward to kids from this gal, but we are SO happy to finally have a good working relationship with this new vet!!!!! It is exciting! She really seems to know goats! YAY! It is GREAT to know that I can call her, and that I will get good, knowledgeable advice!!!!!!!!! We have had our poor Ash on antibiotics, probiotics ad B-Complex and CMPK since, and she is doing GREAT! It is just a wonderful feeling to have a vet who will work with us with our goats! :biggrin It is a relief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We just have to wait and see what Ashleigh Banfield [roduces NEXT time!