Deccox-M

Discussion in 'Dairy Goat Info' started by Halo-M Nubians, Jan 5, 2008.

  1. Halo-M Nubians

    Halo-M Nubians New Member

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    I'm thinking about using Deccox-m this year. Is the goat dose different from the calf? How many kids/for how long will a bag do. It's spendy but seems like it would be more convenient for me.

    Does anyone in my area know if there is a place to get it (in or around Spokane, WA) or who has the cheapest shipping prices?
     
  2. Kaye White

    Kaye White New Member

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    Jefferspets.com is the cheapest that I've found and most reliable.

    Yes, the dose is higher than the lable dose (which is for calves.)
    I use it at the dose of 1/2 teaspoon per kid/ per bottle/ until they are about 3 weeks or 15#'s then I go up to 1 teaspoon per kid per lambar. I also start them at 5 days old. But, I live in the south so we have to fight coccidia from the beginning.
    Kaye
     

  3. Sondra

    Sondra New Member

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    Kaye can you mix this with water or something and syringe to older kids?? no longer on bottle? We are using this here this year again too.
     
  4. Kaye White

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    guess you could, as it's made to be water soluable...but, I generally stop using it when I wean and go to Corid every 21 days until the doelings/bucks are about 6-7 mo. old. By this age I definately would want to have to catch them every day and drench. I wouldn't depend on putting it in the water as to each kid getting enough and as we all know, one off-taste in the water bucket and water intake shuts down. :sigh
    Kaye

    PS...who's being the smarty pants that labled *ME* as a first freshener??? :really :rofl
     
  5. Sondra

    Sondra New Member

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    This was all VICKI's doing as you can see I am the OLD GOAT here. Not nice IMO just wait till Tim or Whim see thiers.:)
     
  6. Halo-M Nubians

    Halo-M Nubians New Member

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    So with shipping from Jeffers it will cost me about $52. How long will this bag last? How many kids will it do-estimate? I am expecting kids from 9 doe's.
    Kaye, you dose by bottle-what if they are getting more/less feedings? I do 4 for about a week then go to 3, then eventually to 2. Will I have to up the dose then?
     
  7. Sondra

    Sondra New Member

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    you just do it in one bottle per day.
     
  8. LynninTX

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    I think I kidded 12 does last yr and went through.... 4 bags maybe.... for SURE more than 3!
     
  9. Halo-M Nubians

    Halo-M Nubians New Member

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    Yikes! Maybe I will go with Corid...
     
  10. Kaye White

    Kaye White New Member

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    I put it in the 1st bottle or lambar and the last of the day. My babies are on the lambar by 5 days old!
    I raised 6 doelings and 2 bucklings and used 2 bags. They were weaned at about 3 months old and then went to corid.
    I think for me the Decoxx-M in the lambar is just more convient than individually dosing twice a day. Once I finally get into a routine, it's easier for me to remember....meds go in lambar before I put the lid on. :sigh
    Kaye
     
  11. Rambar Ranch

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    Does using deccox-m over corid for their coccidia meds better for younger kids? We've used Corid through their entire raising until about 6 months olds, Dosing every 19-20 days for 5 days. It seems more cost effective to use the corid than deccox-m. Is there a benefit over going the other way?

    Ray
     
  12. Kaye White

    Kaye White New Member

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    Ray,
    No, I don't really think there is a good/bad way of coccidia treating. As long as you do some type of prevention and use the correct doses.

    I do mine this way because of convience to me. The cost is about the same,here. Corid can be bought off the shelf, $75/gallon (usually lasts about 1 kidding season) and Deccox-M ordered at $39./bag + shipping.

    If I start getting fecals that say it's not doing it's job...I'll probably switch to another form of prevention. But so far these two are getting the results I want.
    Kaye
     
  13. LynninTX

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    for us it was definitely convenience.. decoxx M was lots easier...

    thanks Kaye I was remembering I did it 2x a day too!

    I also bottle or lambar longer.... more like 5months on most of them.... I had 6 doelings.... then whatever bucklings I had until they sold... did keep 2...

    I intend to start with decoxx M... it worked for us so I am happy with it... but I have a bottle of corid for if I can't continue...
     
  14. Rambar Ranch

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    I must be confused this morning, sorry. I meant to say we use Di-methox 40% and do the 5 day treatment every 19-20 days. Does this make sense?
    Ray
     
  15. Kaye White

    Kaye White New Member

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    :needcoffee Maybe this is the problem??
    Di-methox 40% works great for some. I've just never used it but have come close to ordering it a few times. I just depend on fecals and so far the two mentioned are working.
    Kaye
     
  16. Sondra

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    Wait a minute I thought that decox-m was once a day feeding at least that is what I did 2 yrs ago when I used it. Don't ever remember it being mentioned as twice a day. How much are you using Kaye? total per day.
     
  17. Kaye White

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    :biggrin Yes, it WAS....until last year when I started getting rises in egg counts...went to twice a day and egg counts went way back down.

    I use it at the dose of 1/2 teaspoon per kid/ per bottle/ until they are about 3 weeks or 15#'s then I go up to 1 teaspoon per kid per lambar. I also start them at 5 days old.

    Ok, this is what I posted......but I use it only in the am/pm feedings. Not the mid day. up to 15#'s and they get 1/2 teaspoon- twice a day, over that, a full teaspoon twice a day. I don't feed my kids milk as often as most do, nor as long on several times a day. I also don't measure each bottle nor the lambar milk. I put it in and they drink until they're full. Most of my kids by the time they're 3 weeks old are up to a gallon of milk or more a day. I've generally got a bottle/bucket calf here and can put what's left in the lambar in them. Then I know to cut back on the milk at the next feeding or up it if none's left. Nothing goes to waste here.

    I just can't say everything I do is written in stone...cause I have to change things to go along with the kids,fecals, weights, ect... sorry Sondra...guess I should have posted more on changes.
    Kaye
     
  18. Sondra

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    Thanks well last year didn't use it and used Demethox 40% but I was not good at keeping tract of dates etc like I should have so am going back to the pd in the lambar.
     
  19. Melissa

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    I use Decox M kinda like Kaye but I do 1/2 teaspoon morning and evening feedings = 1 teaspoon a day. I just feel like I've missed something if I didn't do it for EACH bottle (don't count the middle feedings the first few days) for older kids/does I have corid on hand. and I like to dissolve the decox m in a LITTLE water first (like maybe 1/8 cup or less) I find it mixes better.

    -Melissa
     
  20. stacy adams

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    I've been using mine once a day. Well, I did last couple of years anyway. But I don't keep all my kids till they're 3 months old either, most are sold and gone, so my bag of Decox-M lasts longer. I keep what I need in a jar, with the directions written on the jar. If I was giving stuff every 19ish days, I know I'd forget to do it here & there. Once a day is very routine for me, like making the coffee, now that I can remember! :biggrin