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Old 06-22-2008, 11:41 PM   #1
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Default Self-nursing/self-sucking doe

So, how do you deal with a self-sucking doe? This doe kidded 2 1/2 weeks ago, and shortly after she kidded, her
udder got lopsided. I didn't think much of it, and it is still like that. Well, while me and my mom were bottling kids, my mom looked over and saw her sucking on her teat!! And it was on the side which is bigger than the other, which makes total sense.

She is giving me a great deal of milk, so I'm not all that concerned about it. I have been giving her dolomite on her feed and have offered her her milk once, but she didn't seem all to interested in it (both of those going off a long-time breeders advice). So I'm just seeing what everyone here says!



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When we had the dairy girls, a saanen/Lamancha nursed herself. The only thing that worked for her was wearning a bucket Ie...and elizabethean collar like you use for dogs. Expect purchasing them $$ and she would just rub them off or break them, and cradles for horses are too big, so we took the bale off a 2 gallon bucket, cut out the bottom and put it on her head. It sat on her neck she could do everything but fit on the milkstand but she could not reach around and nurse. We culled her. Never had one since but I would cull them that much quicker. Vicki



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wondering if teat tape would work. probably not as she would chew it off.

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Do they make goat muzzles?

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We teat taped, they chew it off, and you have to remove it to milk twice a day. Muzzels will work but they can't eat with them just drink water, so no browsing all day with the herd in the woods. Anything spicy enough to keep her from nursing would also inflame the teat. Milking her in the milkroom without the milkstand was a pain as was taking off and putting back on her bucket. She would never completely dry up on the one side because she nursed all the time. Vicki

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gosh what a pain in the behind they are for sure!!

we have been dealing w/ a saanen doing this since she freshened in feb. She is a heavy milker and I think it started out to relieve herself and developed into a bad bad habit. It was terrible!

She would often see me walking out to do chores and if she hadn't sucked herself yet she would actually run to the end of her pen and lay down to suck!! I was SHOCKED!

Never tried to do anything to curb her nasty habit, for the same reason vicki stated.

And worse of all is we really needed her milk that whole time, or I would have given her the boot. Now we don't need it quite as bad, but amazingly she has all but stopped.

Now she might suck a little maybe one time a week, but not every week now and it is getting less all the time. Still not sure she gets to stay though, as I am sure it will be the same story next year.

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Old 06-23-2008, 03:04 PM   #7
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HMMMMM......I would try a dog shock collar . It would take a lot of being out there and watching for a few days.......but think if she got bit a few times for self sucking, she would loose her appetite for it.

If this were a great doe...it would be worth the try. I suspect that she might would still need a little tune up every now if this was to work on her.

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those elisabethian collars are not that hard to get on and off.

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Old 06-23-2008, 04:07 PM   #9
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How about a goat-bra??

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I've HAD two...both got new addresses! And believe me, I sure hated sending one. GCH Ex 90...but I wanted that milk in the bucket, not back in her. I tried just about everything short of tying their heads to the wall. Nothing worked. Outa' here, to a boer farm as nurse does. THAT kept them drained!
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