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Old 04-19-2012, 05:45 PM   #1
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I have a doe that retained placenta from a birth last Wednesday....

I flushed her for two days, and (per vet instructions), have been giving Lute every other day, banamine every day, and of course anti-biotics (naxel)

I plan on continuing the anti-biotics for another week, but my question is, how long should I continue w/ the Lute and banamine? I've heard too much banamine can damage kidneys and I'm not sure the long term affect of giving lute every other day - so any info would be appreciated... I don't want to stop treatment too soon either and risk losing her...The vet said I could stop - but I don't necessarily trust him - he also told me last year not to flush a doe and I lost her - I flushed this one out against his advice per the info on the boards - vets are great, but not as great as those w/ all the experience that a long term breeder has - so any info you can offer would be great

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Old 04-19-2012, 06:25 PM   #2
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Woah!!!!
Banamine is a muscle relaxer- you want her contracting. You should not be giving banamine with out a completed cleanout. You should be giving her some oxytocin for contractions.

Since you have luted her go in and sweep the uterus - both horns- manually and see what is in there.
Do not pull on anything but go in and see if there actually is attachment to the wall.
If she is open she should be shedding- is she contracting? I am surprised you were not told to give oxytocin even before the lute while she was still open from the original birthing and this may be the reason she has not shed anything. No contractions?

Go in and see what is there.
Give her a dose of oxy and quit with the lute until you have swept manually to see what is there.
Give us an update once you examine.
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Old 04-19-2012, 06:55 PM   #3
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Lutelyse doesn't work the way your vet is having you give it. He gave you a perscription for lute and gave you those directions, or was this on the phone and he said oxytocin? Vicki

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Old 04-19-2012, 07:46 PM   #4
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Are you sure she has a retained placenta and didn't pass it and eat it when you weren't looking?

Retained placentas in goats aren't the serious "must pass within a certain amount of time or the animal will die" emergency that they are in other animals. We've always taken a pretty casual approach to the passing of placentas . . . if we find them, we bury them in the compost pile, if we don't, we don't worry about it.

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Old 04-19-2012, 07:58 PM   #5
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Is this placenta hanging out, or you are just thinking it is retained because you haven't seen it? My guess is that she probably dropped and ate it long ago - unless you actually have it hanging out of course.

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Yes- that is why you do a sweep.

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We have one dog that cleans up every trace of where the doe kidded spot,including the placenta,cleaning mama and kid's.
I dont worry too much about it unless there was a problem with kidding.

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I rarely see my does placentas unless they drop them right away. Mostly they drop them when I take the kids to the house and have consumed them by the time I get back to her.

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I rarely see my does placentas unless they drop them right away. Mostly they drop them when I take the kids to the house and have consumed them by the time I get back to her.
Why do you take the kids to the house? Sorry to go OT, but I just don't understand when some of you (not just you, Anita) take kids to the house?
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I take mine to the house because they are wet when they're born, and it is usually cold when they are born, and it's easier to keep them warm and dry them off if I take them in-heat lamps really freak me out. Mine stay inside for the first day only...because it is more convenient for me to feed them frequently. The first time I bottle-raised the kids, I tried to keep them in the barn, and the kids and moms would not stop crying for each other...mostly the moms. It was much more stressful on the does than taking them to a place out of sight and sound.



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