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Old 09-21-2010, 01:16 AM   #1
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Here is some new information regarding the treatment of CL (Caseous Lymphodenitis).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19405888

The drug used was Tulathomycin/Draxxin. I hope to get more information to post/link soon.
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:07 AM   #2
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I read the article. Too bad it doesn't have a new drug for preventing CL. I think there is a vaccine but heard it was iffy.



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There is a vaccine. But since the blood test for CL just tests for antibodies, if you vaccinate, your animals will test positive, even if they aren't.

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Old 09-21-2010, 01:18 PM   #4
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There is a vaccine. But since the blood test for CL just tests for antibodies, if you vaccinate, your animals will test positive, even if they aren't.
I have read that, too. Do any of you actually vaccinate for CL? Would it be beneficial so that, in case your goats were exposed to it, at least they would not actually get it?
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I don't vaccinate for it.

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Also I think CL has a lot of different strains, so you really need a vaccine for whatever strain you have.

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I visited with a boer lady one time way up in north texas. They had had CL in their herd in animals that were way too expensive to put down. Foundation stock they bought from Big time breeders. They were using these animals to upgrade their stock but trying to prevent CL outbreak throughout their young stock. They were working with A & M in creating a CL preventive vaccine. They created the vaccine according to the strain that was found on their farm. They used the actual puss from a CL abscess to create the vaccine. All of the animals that they vaccinated will test positive for CL from now on. The problem with this is you don't really know if they are testing positive because they were vaccinated or if they actually have CL.

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I have read that, too. Do any of you actually vaccinate for CL? Would it be beneficial so that, in case your goats were exposed to it, at least they would not actually get it?
If you practice good biosecurity, you should be pretty safe from CL. One of the biggies to avoid is purchasing stock from a ranch that has CL. If you show, make sure you have space between your goats and other folks goats - and we avoid shows that don't check the animals over before allowing them onto the grounds. This helps avoid ringworm, pinkeye, etc.

If you vaccinate your Dairy goats for CL, many people will not purchase your animals - blood test for CL will be positive. And since the vaccine is "iffy", folks figure that you wouldn't have vaccinated unless you have it or are co-mingling with herds that have it.

The Boer herd in Texas is spending some serious coin to develop a vaccine for their farm. Too bad the "Big Time" breeders are so short sighted to allow CL and then pass it on to other breeders. They are just hurting the industry, not to mention sooner or later folks will stop purchasing their high dollar animals. GRRRR

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Old 09-23-2010, 05:27 AM   #9
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The Boer herd in Texas is spending some serious coin to develop a vaccine for their farm. Too bad the "Big Time" breeders are so short sighted to allow CL and then pass it on to other breeders. They are just hurting the industry, not to mention sooner or later folks will stop purchasing their high dollar animals. GRRRR
Here is a possibility -- if they vaccinate against it and can prevent it from spreading within their herd on infected ground, so that they have no more abcesses, they MIGHT be able to move their stock to fresh ground in the future, and in a few more generations they might be able to stop using the vaccine. As odd as this sounds, the Experimental Extension Farm in Canton, NY was sent some sheep with Orf, or soremouth, and in theory they would have been using vaccine on them for the rest of eternity. Instead, they put them out on large, open grasslands (they have a lot of it) 365 days a year, and moved them frequently, and the Orf died out in about 2-3 years.

I used to worry about bringing home orf all the time, until the extension agent told me about their experience in Canton. I still don't want to bring it home, but it is reassuring that other people know how to manage it.

In order to catch a disease, it has to be present. When all the scabs have fallen off, when all the animals are immune or vaccinated, and when they are on absolutely clean ground once again, there is the chance that they have escaped the disease. There is nothing left in the environment to recontaminate the herd, so they didn't have to vaccinate. I think they made a point of not bringing those animals inside their regular facilities for a couple of years until the disease was gone.

The question is: are they going to be honest with their customers, or refrain from selling, while they sort out their own herds? There are ethical ways of doing this, and less ethical ways of doing this.

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How much property do you own Chris to be able to completely move a herd just because of soremouth? Vicki



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