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Old 03-03-2011, 03:53 PM   #1
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Is there significant difference in the metabolic needs in these two groups of goats. What I am wondering is due to the different environment from which these groups were originated from could there be different requirements in things like copper, selenium and other trace elements or in there original environments did they acquire what they need from vastly different feed sources?



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Old 03-03-2011, 08:34 PM   #2
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I would think it would depend more on where a goat was raised, rather than where the breed originates.
For instance, antibodies will differ from herd to herd. The dams who have lived on a farm will have the antibodies for issues common to that farm. A doe brought in in the end of her pregnancy, won't have the exact same antibodies to pass onto her offspring.
Originally there are probably differences and if you brought in two goats born and raised in different areas, I would think they may have some absorption differences, but that would be in the first generation and eventually would adjust to the farm I would think through the future generations.
A fascinating question, for sure.



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Old 03-03-2011, 10:29 PM   #3
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My bad I have heard the goats of primarily the equatorial regions such as the Nubians and other breeds that more readily bread year around were consider equatorial and the Swiss breeds which typically breed seasonally were considered Alpine or Swiss breeds.

My thoughts were along the lines that since these groups were developed with different available feed. Since these breeds had to absorb there nutrients from different food sources then might one group over the other be better at absorption of there nutrients

Or maybe a goat is a goat.

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Old 03-03-2011, 11:24 PM   #4
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I think it could make a difference. In horses for example, breed can determine feeding plans. My haflinger is short and drafty. She doesn't eat grain and really doesn't need much hay to keep meat on her bones. A thoroughbred, even when not working, needs a lot of grain to stay in condition. My horse also grows a REALLY thick winter coat, and she's lived in Texas for most of her life. The paint in the next stall barely grew any winter coat.

I've been around a few goat breeds and haven't noticed much differences in the needs. Goats were domesticated about the same time as dogs. Dog's breed doesn't really make a difference in feeding, maybe it has something to do with how domesticated an animal is.

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My friends who have a farm in Belize say their Spanish goats breed year-round.

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Where they live & what breed would determine the needs of the goats. I couldnt feed my Nigerians the same amount I feed my Nubians but they all need the same minerals, but goats in Florida may need different amounts of different minerals then what my goats here in Michigan need.
Dog breeds do determine what they need, you cant feed a small breed(need high protien) the same as you feed a medium breed, or a xxl breed(need low protien).

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Old 03-04-2011, 01:50 PM   #7
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Is it safe to assume ( I know ) that the geographic placement of animals around the world is some what based on available feed. Not only available actual plants but plants and in some cases raw minerals that the animal needs to flourish.

If the Shannen goat was developed in a region of Switzerland and as that breed was developed traits that were considered good were keep and traits that were considered bad were eliminated. Some of this process would have to have been based on healthy goats v unhealthy goats. Would this not leave in the breed the ability to best thrive in the environment in which the breed was developed.

So as different breeds were developed in different ares would that leave them with different ability to absorb nutrients and minerals requiring different mineral and feed to maximize there ability to flourish?

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Old 03-04-2011, 02:45 PM   #8
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Northern breeds of dogs need more fat in their diets than other breeds.

Probably the original goat breeds had sight differences, but they have been shuffled all over the world, interbred with native breeds and fed whatever is handy for so long, it probably doesn't make much of a difference now.



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