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Old 06-14-2008, 05:52 PM   #1
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I am looking for something to keep skeeters and flies at bay with the goats. DD's work hard at keeping everything clean--but there are a certain amount of flies and skeeters--- can we use Bronco? WE are milking 2 does and have one doe that will kid this month ---- she is one we bought for milk and the breeder told us she might be pg and she is pg. She is bagging and just a little swollen behind. Don't want to spray with something that will harm them or not allow us to use the milk. Carolyn



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Old 06-14-2008, 06:04 PM   #2
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Bronco spray is perfectly safe for pg animals. It doesn't work well on horseflies but with repeated- either the am or pm milking- spraying it works well to deter biting flies and mosquitos.
I use a ADM spray on my milkers every morning before turning them out. They are spending a lot more time outdoors browsing with the added protection from the biting flies.

Best thing I've done is put out Quick Bayt! Thanks Tim Pruitt!!! I've got way less flies this year than last and LOTS of dead ones.
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Old 06-14-2008, 06:45 PM   #3
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Maybe Sara can help you with the mosquitos thankfully we don't have many of them unless you are in the deep woods. Like Kaye flies are taken care of with my Quick Bait feed sacks Now nats and horseflies...you have to use 10% Pyrethrem so I use Brute pour on, although I put it into spary bottle and spray legs. Red had the first horsefly of the year bothering her yesterday so I know it works really well. For those of you with lice and mites it also is great for that. It's for lactating dairy cattle, but I am very careful not to get it on the udder. Vicki

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Old 06-14-2008, 09:27 PM   #4
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Love the Quick Bayt! It's pretty sad when you and your daughter's evening entertainment is watching the flies spin circles, lay on their back and twitch!

I use UltraShield fly spray. It is what I use on my horses and it works very, very well. It is supposed to last for "17-day protection". Don't know about that, but it does work well and it has sunscreen in it and I have noticed that is does help the horses from bleaching out so bad.

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Old 06-14-2008, 09:43 PM   #5
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We will order some Quick Bayt and we have Bronco and UltrShield, but wanted to make sure it was safe for them, I will look for the others also. Thank you Carolyn

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Old 06-14-2008, 09:47 PM   #6
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I use the QB but I also use Natural homemade spray and they work well tho I don't have horse flies here so don't know abt them.

OK couldn't find my original recipe but found these and like I said I use vinegar/witch hazel/citronella or eucalpytus lemon grass and orange oil. water/

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Recipe #1 (The popular Avon SSS mixture)
(this is my old stand by and possibly most effective on Arizona flies and mosquitoes too)

2 cups White Vinegar
1 cup Avon Skin-So Soft
I cup of water
1 tablespoon of Eucalyptus Oil
(For extra mosquito repellant, a friend of mine adds a few drops of catnip oil too)
Be sure and shake well. I give it a B+

Recipe #2
(another stand-by)

1 part Citronella Oil
7 parts water
You can decrease to 4 parts water if pests are really bad.
I use 1 part c. oil to 5 parts water, and rate it a B-



Recipe #3

2 cups apple cider vinegar
2 cups cold prepared tea, sage or chamomile
1 ml (20 drops) eucalytus oil
1 ml (20 drops) citronella oil
½ ml (10 drops) lavender oil
½ ml (10 drops tea tree oil
½ ml (10 drops) cedar oil
1 ml (20 drops) emulsifier such as polysorbate 20 (you can skip this ingredient but shake mixture frequently)
(Recipe from Dressage Today Staff)
I tried this and gave it a C


Recipe #4

1 part insect repellent oil (Citronella, Cedarwood,Lemon Grass, Eucalyptus, Peppermint, Tea Tree, Lavender or castor oil)
10 parts witch hazel C

Recipe #5

1oz. Citronella Oil
2 oz. Avon Skin So Soft
1 cup Apple Cider vinegar
1 cup of water

Recipe #6

6 oz. Avon skin So Soft
14 oz of water C+

Recipe #7

½ tsp Oil of Myrrh
2 cups of water
½ cup apple cider vinegar
¼ tsp Citronella Oil
(Recipe from Mary Brennan, DVM author of Complete Holistic Care and Healing for Horses: The Owner's Veterinary Guide to Alternative Methods and Remedies- Visit Dr. Mary Brennan's Website

Recipe # 8

1/3 cup of Listerine mouthwash
1/3 cup of Apple Cider Vinegar
1/3 cup of vegetable oil B-



If you don't want to mix your own fly spray but want to stay natural, Larry's Horse Spray (http://www.horsesdacor.com/) in my opinion is the best. Dynamite has a spray called Dyna-Shield and Chamisa Ridge has one called Equi-Mist. However, I have had better results with Larry's Horse Spray, during mosquito season I just add several drops of catnip oil.....works great.





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Old 06-14-2008, 10:00 PM   #7
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Sondra -- Thanks for the recipes and ratings!

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Yes! I have to find somethng for horseflies - they are out with vengence. My goats are not wanting to go out to graze and I am losing milk production. Not good for someone planning to go to the Nationals.

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So would you say it safe to use anything that you can use on a horse on a goat for mosquito's? We have mosquito's almost as big as the goats.

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Old 06-15-2008, 06:12 AM   #10
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I read something recently that I am going to try. Listerine, for bug spray. I was at Wally tonight and I bought some, I will let you guys know how it works. Anybody else try it

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