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Old 02-01-2013, 12:35 AM   #1
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I have a 5 y.o. mini mancha doe (82% LM, so quite large). I got her in early October. As soon as in with the herd (10 others, ND and MM) she was immediately herd queen. She is a VERY aggressive queen. She nails my mini aussie any chance she gets when he's out helping do chores (he has no herding instincts, doesn't bother the goats, but runs around like a goon), she's now gone to ramming our Bernese Mtn Dog (who's got the temperment of a kitten, and wouldn't hurt a fly, think...big and dumb). She will hit another doe hard, hit my smallest going to be FF ND extremely hard yesterday, and during feeding has to be tied up as she bites and grabs any other doe she can.

Only problem, she's got very nice conformation to work with and I love her personality towards people. She's actually let me take the herd on walks to the woods and fields, something I've never been able to do. Altho I'm thinking the other girls know the routine and may go on their own now.

Would you keep her and risk her breaking or aborting someone, or get her out to a bigger herd (she came from a 80 head herd), or another herd with bigger goats at least. I will keep her till she kids mid March as I really want her kids.



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Old 02-01-2013, 12:52 AM   #2
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Well I can tell you - I sold mine! She did great in another herd, but mine breathed a sigh of relief when she left! She caused several abortions here before I got rid of her....and she wore a ram shield until I sold her.

So no - I wouldn't keep her! Just my opinion



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Old 02-01-2013, 12:54 AM   #3
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Get a doeling from her and move her on!

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Old 02-01-2013, 01:36 AM   #4
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Darn, was thinking that may be the best. Everyone else will be so happy tho. Except for the dog ramming, I think it's food related. She was thin when I got her and just really acts out around food. In the pasture she's fine, standing in the calf huts between the water tank and the barn she's fine, it's just around the hay and grain, which is where more damage is to happen from stories I've heard. Hopefully she give me a nice doeling.

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Old 02-01-2013, 01:37 AM   #5
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I wouldn't have her around after she kids. My kids still talk about the "mean goats" even though I've gotten rid of them (and they weren't even terribly mean) and all of the remaining goats are extremely sweet.

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I bet you she was very low ranked in her original herd. My herd is a bit 'all over the place' in age, breeds and size' and in my experience when you move a lowly goat that gets beaten up to another pen to protect her, and in that pen she's the larger/stronger doe, then instead of being happy and taking break that doe almost always turns around and becomes a big bully herself.

I've had that so many times! The latest one was a very, very small milking yearling that was brought here last May. She had no ranking in the milking group and was a bit on the skinny side when I dried her up at the end of her lactation, so I put her separate in a pen with two young, shy does. Figured she could use some rest and the young does were getting grain, while the 'just dry' group didn't. Instead of enjoying the pampering, she spent all her time scaring the young does senseless and beating them up!

Ugghh, they are so much like....like.....HUMANS!!!!

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Old 02-01-2013, 02:07 AM   #7
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I just read the post where it says the kids are still talking about the mean does. Funny, I have one doe, Coffee, who just headbutts every goat that comes close to her. It isn't a problem, believe me, because every doe I have has learned to stay clear of Coffee. She's 5 now and there's always open space around Coffee, but never a fight, she's just a loner, I guess. Anyway, my boys are true 'cow men' and think the goats are merely an item to keep their Mom sane, rather than a respectable business. So my younger son told me a while back: 'the only goat I like is Coffee'. I asked him why in the world he would like that goat and he says: 'because she hates goats, just like me!'
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I sold an over-the-top mean doe like that. Like Christine said, what a relief when she was gone. After that experience, my opinion is that it's just not worth the stress.

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I agree with moving her on. It isn't worth the physical damage she can do to the others. A goat that butts the others away from her is a loner. But a goat that is agressive in seeking and destroying will always be a danger to the others. Get rid of her asap.

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I sold a very mouthy bullying alpine goat that I had. My herd is so much more peaceful now. I think you will be glad you did.



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